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Informed Consent & New Red Flag!

H.B. 364 Abortion Revisions – S Christiansen and C Bramble

Bill sponsor states a number of times that this is an “Informed Consent Bill”, and that “Best information leads to the Best Decision”. Further states, “In the end – it is STILL THE WOMENS DECISION.”

Looking over the committee hearing and questions were the interesting exchanges between Christiansen and committee members Mark Wheatley and Brian King.

Rep Wheatley (Murray) SLCC – Administrator Elected in 2005

Who decides what is the best information?

The Doctor? Or the Government

Steve response: “When information becomes relevant and real, the quality of the info is best”

Kentucky Bill 6th Circuit Court of Appeals Statement: “nothing suspect”

Who decides what is the best information? – asks a 2nd time

Steve – “I’m sponsoring this bill”

Rep King (SLC) Attorney 2009 – Majority Whip

Describe Transabdominal vs Transvaginal and what is the difference.

Is there any medical necessity for this Bill?

Steve: “Potential risks” – YES, to avoid

Have you consulted with medical experts to see if this bill lines up with generally accepted medical standards?

Steve: I have consulted with some, yes.

Is there any medical expert that believes that this conforms/aligns with generally accepted medical standards?

Steve: I don’t know if they would be willing to go on record, or not.

Alright, I’m going to be VERY interested in what the Utah Medical Association has to say to address that specific issue. I would be very surprised if they agree with you.

Is there any other medical procedure that we mandate an unwilling medical provider carry out?

Steve: I don’t know.

Is there any other medical procedure that we mandate occur on an unwilling patient?

Steve: Let’s make sure that we understand that the mother can avert head or have the volume turned down. However, we are taking an affirmative step here in requiring that the ultrasound be administered. Already administered in many cases. Today, the woman is not given the opportunity to see, or understand.

So, the answer is NO. There is no other medical procedure that we mandate occur on an unwilling patient?

Steve: I don’t know.

Bill requires to hear a heartbeat, are you aware to the degree to which a transabdominal ultrasound can pick up a heartbeat? At what point in the pregnancy does that occur?

Steve: Transabdominal have a lower likelihood of being able to pick up sound. Heartbeat can be noticeable at 8 weeks; a little less or a little more. And, please remember that the bill says to make the heartbeat audible “if possible”.

Bills in Committee on Wednesday!

Wednesday 8am

H.B. 241 Kindergarten Attendance Amendments -

131 (ii) If the student who is excused to attend a home school under this Subsection (2) is

132 excused from kindergarten, the local school board shall provide a kindergarten syllabus or

133 otherwise identify the knowledge, skills, and competencies a student is recommended to attain

134 before grade 1.

We heard 28 Bills in the House today. 6 opposed, with 4 over 10 votes in opposition.

HCR22 - Concurrent Resolution Concerning the Protection, Development, and Beneficial Use of Utah's Colorado River Compact Allocation (57-13-5)

HB62 - Enterprise Zone Tax Credit Amendments (44-23-8)

Hydrogen Fuel tax incentive; Thurston concern that some are already doing itCimmited to it, why does gov't ned to subsidize? $ would come from Ed fund

HB328 - Division of Water Resources Study Update (51-14-10)

Update 2002 study for the Green River

HB349 - Insurance Modifications (42-23-10)

Living Organ donor, prohibits insurer from discriminating against


Study for # and type of nonroad (construction equip & MORE expansive – including lawnmower and string trimer) compression-ignition $50K note

- 23 NEW numbered bills

- 0 NEW requested bills – Seems like this is broken, and reporting not working correctly.

New Bills:

S.B. 229 Administrative Rules Amendments– 5118 lines…

13          ▸     creates a director position within the Office of Administrative Rules and defines the 14     duties of the director; 15          ▸     requires the Office of Administrative Rules to make administrative rules regarding 16     the administrative rulemaking process; 17          ▸     modifies the duties of the executive director of the Department of Administrative 18     Rules; 19          ▸     clarifies that rulemaking grants in education related sections are subject to the Utah 20     Administrative Rulemaking Act; and

H.B. 460 Firearms Removal Amendments – RED FLAG BILL!

14          ▸     enables a family member, medical professional, or law enforcement officer to ask a 15     court to restrain a person from possessing any firearms or ammunition for a 16     specified length of time;

Total Bill Count

- House 459

- Senate 235

- House Concurrent Resolutions (HCR) 27

- House Joint Resolution (HJR) 23

- House Resolutions (HR) 3

- Senate Concurrent Resolutions (SCR) 13

- Senate Joint Resolutions (SJR) 13

- Senate Resolutions (SR) 1

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